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Old 12-09-2012, 07:52 AM
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Hello,

Once I purchase and set up my six foot tank, (shooting for a 180 gallon) I have to figure out what's going to stock it. All I know is that I want just petros. Would it be correct to say that 16-20 is the maximum amount of adults I an have in this size tank? If so, here are my plans:

To start out, I will buy 10 red bulu points. I will let these grow to about 6-8 inches, and then buy 4 moshis. I have heard of this being done but is it safe to add new fish, (they will be around 2-3 inches when added) to the colony? After this I'd like to add some blue variant of petro, I'm thinking 3. The reasoning behind adding these all in this order is to have the reds established, and then have the hyper aggressive moshis calm down when they have no chance of dominance.

I have this vision of how amazing the tank would be with some red, yellow an blue petros together.

What do you think?
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:05 PM
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I have 19 red Bulus in a well established colony that have been together for almost two years. I just bought 3 WC females to add to the group. I took all the rocks out and added the 3 to the group. Instant aggression. The other females attacked the 3 WC females with a vengeance. I had to take the 3 females out and put them in a separate tank. I might have to resell them. It is very difficult to add adult fish to a well established colony. As far as adding juveniles, I don't think that would cause an issue because the adults won't view them as a breeding threat.

When I first started keeping petros I had moshi, Bulus, and longolas together. My longola male killed all the females due to fact I only had six. The Moshis did well, I had 10 in the tank and they became the dominant group who bred regularly. The Bulus were the passive group. Great looking tank. I eventually got rid of the Moshis and the male longola. I think the key to adding to any group of petros is to introduce all at the same time or introduce juveniles to an establish group.
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Many hv similar stories to Dons, I certainly have my share, grief and money lost. I hope u keep a mental picture of all the free advices provided to date.

My advice is buy as many as u can afford but 4 is not a good number for any type of petro for long term. I'd rather steer u to 10 per variant and add them all at once or soon after when they are still small. Stay away from wc.

Fish is the fun part but your priority right now is a suitable habitat, as you will be looking at 10-15" x 10-20 fish in a relatively short time.
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Don sorry to hear about the new additions, hope it works out.
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I have 19 red Bulus in a well established colony that have been together for almost two years. I just bought 3 WC females to add to the group. I took all the rocks out and added the 3 to the group. Instant aggression. The other females attacked the 3 WC females with a vengeance. I had to take the 3 females out and put them in a separate tank. I might have to resell them. It is very difficult to add adult fish to a well established colony. As far as adding juveniles, I don't think that would cause an issue because the adults won't view them as a breeding threat.

When I first started keeping petros I had moshi, Bulus, and longolas together. My longola male killed all the females due to fact I only had six. The Moshis did well, I had 10 in the tank and they became the dominant group who bred regularly. The Bulus were the passive group. Great looking tank. I eventually got rid of the Moshis and the male longola. I think the key to adding to any group of petros is to introduce all at the same time or introduce juveniles to an establish group.
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I was already planning on adding Juvies and not adults. Will it be peaceful (by petro standards) if the Juvies grow to adult size in the tank?


And yes Geost, the tank is the first battle here.
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Many hv similar stories to Dons, I certainly have my share, grief and money lost. I hope u keep a mental picture of all the free advices provided to date.

My advice is buy as many as u can afford but 4 is not a good number for any type of petro for long term. I'd rather steer u to 10 per variant and add them all at once or soon after when they are still small. Stay away from wc.

Fish is the fun part but your priority right now is a suitable habitat, as you will be looking at 10-15" x 10-20 fish in a relatively short time.
You mentioned 10 per variant. That is obviously quite a lot of fish in a 180. I would be correct in saying that 30 adult petros could not be kept in that size tank right?
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Everyone has basically said all that you need to know to make your decisions. Don't go with WC unless you can afford a lot all at once and don't add a few to an established colony later on. It's best to overcrowd them but you need a lot of filtration. There's no secret or exact number, just get a lot and you should be fine. If you're starting with juvies, you'll be fine for many, many months (few years?) until they might necessitate a larger tank.

Read the links I posted in your other thread.
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You mentioned 10 per variant. That is obviously quite a lot of fish in a 180. I would be correct in saying that 30 adult petros could not be kept in that size tank right?
I would refine your selections a little bit. In a small tank like a 180, I would keep one larger varient like moshi, bulus, or longola. Look to get around 15-20 fry and weed out some males as they mature. To fill out your tank look into some of the smaller petro species like famula or trewevasae.

If you go this route I would say you could keep 15-20 of the larger petros, and 10-15 total of the smaller ones. You can add trophs or gobies too for some variety if you like.

Hope this helps
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